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2012-06-06T17:07:44Z

It really amazed me to find that the US population overwhelmingly believes god has had something to do with human evolution.  Only 15% believe god had nothing to do with it.... up only 6% points since 1982 when < 10% had that understanding.

Gallop Poll Data Source

POPULATION:

EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT:

I would have thought that the more education one had would have inverted the beliefs... i.e. that a near 90% - 100% of the most educated would believe god had nothing to do with human evolution... but that's decidedly not the case at all: Only 14% of college grads, and 29% of those with post-grad education believe god had nothing to do with human evolution.  That's actually no different or even a lower proportion of college grads that have that belief than the population at large (15% of population v. 14% of college grads).  Interestingly though, those that have a degree plus some post-graduate education have nearly twice the proportion of the populuatoi with that belief (29% v 15%), and just barely over twice those that just have a college degree (29% v 14%).  Still, it's amazing that only < 1/3rd of those that have a post graduate education think god had nothing to do with human evolution.  That's hardly much more than the proportion that believe in creationism (god created humans in their current form within the last 10k years) (25%)!!!.  

What this tells me is that there's little rational thought and fundamentally a disbelief iof science even for those among the population that have attained among the highest levels of education the globe can provide. ... I mean that's a vast majority --- 71% --- of those with the highest levels of education that don't use rational thought and have disbelief of what science finds (71% = 100%- 29%)!!!  If the highest levels of education isn't sufficient to get get 98% - 100% of those that have that education to think rationally, logically, and believe scientific and factual findings and empirical evidence, then what, prey tell,  does that level of education profer on those who attain it?  They can read better, with greater vocabulary and comprehension, but if they can't distinguish fact from fiction then what value the ability to read better --- more entertainment value perhaps? 


POLTICAL PERSUASION:

Of course this has to also translate to political pursuasions --- such that those that use the least rational, logical thinking processes and reject science would also therefore have the least belief that god has nothing to do with human evolution.  This turns out to be, not at all surprisingly to anybody at all, the GOP:  Only 5% of GOP believe god had nothing to do with evolution... that's only 1/4 of those indicated to be Democrats (19%). .. and btw, Independants align with the democrats on this.  In other words, both Democrats and Independants have 4x  the proportion of the GOP who believe god had nothing to do with human evolution. This isn't a whole lot to hang their hats on in either case though... its still at best only less than 20% of those with defined political pursuasions that believe god had nothing to do with human evolution. 

What this really says though is that those with low levels of logical, and rational thought processes are drawn to the political party that also basis their political positions on illogical and irrational foundations as well. 

This all reminds me of the times when the US believed god favored the white, european races and ethnicities (excluding those with polish and eastern european names) over those of all other ethicities and races... especially those with darker skin colors... being that god made the whites superior to the others.    That's really very rational and logical thinking... because of course god created the northern european's either 1) before god created the africans, asians, and eastern europeans, so that the rest of the globe's humans were all evolved purposefully by the guidance of god from the northern europeans and god wanted to make them all of lesser superiority than his favored form of humans... the whites, or that 2) god created the africans, asians, and eastern europeans roughly simultaneously in time with the northern europeans (Greeks, northern africans ... mesopatania, etc), and that he placed each of these creations in geographically separate regions of the globe, and god probably did this so that god's different races couldn't interbreed and produce "abonimations" and "impure" people, thus degrading the superior white race.

Somehow, the modern human, what are referred to as anatomically modern (a species called homo sapiens sapiens), which occupy the globe today and which has been virtually unchanged for the last 200k years must not have existed until only 10k years ago.... making a great mystery of why we are able to find skulls and skeletons that are identical to those of today in every detail, not to mention other artifacts of human tools and methods that date to over 200k k years ago.    Thus all the other humans, pre-homo sapiens sapiens, must not have been created by god or if they were then god created them, not as humans, but as animals in human form, walking fully upright all the time (not occassionally on all fours, not swinging or living in trees, drawing on cave walls, making tools for hunting, etc.  So god saw these animals that he'd created in modern human form 200k years ago with brains the size of current human brains, and observed them for another 190k years and then decided just 10k years ago to create a new species, which he decided were not animals, so god made them as what we now call "humans", and god made this new species look, act, and otherwise be indistinguishable in any fashion from the animal form of the same thing he'd created 190k years earlier.   

Of course the other possibiity is that the methods of dating things that are dead, decomposed down to bones, and the artifacts used by those dead, are extremely poor and can only be reliable if the dead are only dated to ~10k years ago.  All other measures are wrong or pure fabrication ... or most probably a conspiracy of atheist scientists who have stealthily and arbitrarily decided (beginning with Darwin) that humans evolved from the primates beginning ~ 5 million years ago.   

Yep, measurements of time before 10k years ago are wrong so all modern humans skeletons dated to before 10k years ago are actually no more than 10k years old, .... or despite the fact that the skeleton remains are identical to those of a few years ago (after decomposed down to skeletal remains) they weren't really humans... but must be animals god created to look just like the modern humans... but who weren't. ... so it must be because at least 80% of the population of US adults believe that's the case in fact.  The popular, christian religious based beliefs are the real truth, and everything else is wrong &/or an atheist conspiracy.    

And if we can arbitrarily reject science as it relates to human evolution, then we can just as abitrarily and with no greater reasoning of logic or rational thinking also reject any other field of science & its findings not to our liking ... for any reason we don't like its findings.  Blood-letting to cure illnesss and infections is probably therefore just as valid a means as those used by modern medicine I guess... if you want to believe it.... which must make it the truth of fact and reality. 

And we actually think we're intelligent? we should make decisions based on popular beliefs founded on christian religious writings? 

Comment by analyticliberal
on 2012-06-12T16:12:47Z
The present day strong negative correlation betwee belief in religion and science's findings has been the case since long before Conpernicus, Gallileo, etc. Basically this relationship boils down to a fundamental denial of that which isnt in concert with religion's dogma.... the more extreme (fundamentalist) religious dogma, the greater the incentive to reject science's objective findings. Since this relationship has been roughy the same for centuries, if not millenia, yet innate intelligence is unchanged, while both general and advanced levels of education have increased by several orders of magnitude in the meantime, it's pretty clear that education and intelligence factors, combined or separately, are minor variables in cause of the relationship. Consider simply the fact that in current times, those with the greatest levels of educational attainment, are on average also those with greater than average intelligence by a considerable degree... yet only 29% of this population believes god had nothing to do with human evolution. That means that education and intelligence is only a minor variable in the relationship. If this relationship were broken down by degrees of intelligence combined with educational attainment, you can be sure it would produce a general scatter.over the range.. i.e. variance. Thus the correlation isn't even as good as the 29% factor would lead one to believe. This lack of correlation... i.e. 71% of those with highest levels of education and with presumably greater than average intelligence still believe a god had something to do with human evolution... means that there are other more significant variables in the relationship's causal factors that haven't been addressed.... or perhaps more accurately stated, published. The question therefore becomes why haven't the other more significant factors been either addressed/studied/researched or if the latter, then published? Could it be that the other most significant variable(s) has to do with childhood propoganda --- instilled by parents, extended family, and the formal religious study called "sunday school". Afterall, it's pretty clear that sunday school's teachings, supported by parents and extended family is taught long before children are exposed to real science's methods and teachings. If this is the case, and I believe it would pass muster in tests of the hypothesis, then religion is pure propoganda... practised with the most advanced methods honed over the centuries. There's also a sociological factor which I'd put in the catagory of people's (human's) general inclination to believe in those members of their society that already have large (majority) followings. This applies in all sociological walks of life... politics, science included.